On this page there is this thread: Costly decimal mistake.

Would it perhaps trouble you to join in on a recent thread covering this topic instead of an entirely new one? This way you'd avoid having some arse, me, adding salt to your wound by pointing out your reading deficiency. I mean, given the example so far, are you sure it was accidental enter hitting or you just being careless and impulsive? (Ergo, meaning the GM was right in refusing you.)

However, it does need to be said that Taikun (who I tend to loathe) was very right (and very loud) about the number 1 corrective measure to this problem. Just change the default tab selection on the modify dialogue from YES to NO.

It means an added mouseclick or keypress for the super elite amongst us, myself included, but it spares a lot of pain for the masses. The super elite will of course come into this thread whining about the dumbification of Eve but I think the truth is they just like their lazy ways and don't want any added step at all. And of course the Darwinism of the market interface: Alot of upcoming competitors weed themselves out rather quickly this way.

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Originally by: Danari

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Risk management says only keep operating capital in your operating account.

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A very short sighted self defeating suggestion but... to each their own.

PS: As an example, you need to keep enough in your wallet to cover likely buy order volume. Depending on your activities, that still leaves enough isk at risk to do some serious damage.

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Originally by: Wingophone

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YourTaikun's idea for a fix is better than mine and would solve the problems that both myself and the other poster had.

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Fixed it for you.

And the accident you have I also have had happen. You learn to adopt methods of operating suited to your environment especially, sadly, when those who control the environment refuse to make so small a change. (May be it gets in the way of pulling the tab on a beer or something.)

PS: Liked the "mea culpa" and "stfu" mixture you handed back to me. Much props to you.

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Originally by: Shar Tegral

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The super elite will of course come into this thread whining about the dumbification of Eve but I think the truth is they just like their lazy ways and don't want any added step at all.

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Sadly, QFT.

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I'm going to suppose that he was modifying the price in the middle. Sometimes it is easy to delete the decimal point as you are editing.

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Originally by: Treelox

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/me whistles innocently having no idea what Shadarle is talking about.

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Dammit, you stole my line.
I was so going to whistle that!

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Now, now Shadarle, that example was a bit bombastic. No one is asking for double error trapping or some such. However there does need to be something that does avoid the all to common happenstance of accidental order entry. And the fact that it is a common non-idiotic accident is far more believable than your claim of having lost so little to it.

I'm not saying you are lying but as you often say, you yourself can not be used as the example or litmus test of "average" or "normal" in Eve. (Mostly because your ego won't let you fall into those categories... )

And I, like yourself, really hope there is a "disable" check box to the average error trap. But that hope, and fear, does not diminish the honest necessity this change is filling. Arguments to the contrary are just intellectually dishonest.

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Originally by: Shadarle

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I feel that if someone makes the mistake they deserve to lose the money.

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You know that I'm not exactly warm and cuddly either mate. I sincerely hope that CCP does put in a disable, REALLY REALLY HOPE, but I'm also prepared if they do not. I do think idiocy is its own rewards and any accommodation to remove the learning experience is not prudent imho. We both agree that Darwinism should live and romp throughout Eve.

But this error doesn't just happen due to idiocy.

That catch is the only reason I'm being philosophical about the whole affair. I just think that all training wheels should be removable (thus I don't like Macs).

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Originally by: Shadarle

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I tend to recall you agreeing completely with me when it was Taikun who was arguing for there to be safeguards all over, now that it is someone else you seem to be on the other side of this.

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You are mistaken. I agreed with Taikun's point while disagreeing with Taikun himself. (You will also find my immense embarrassment at agreeing with him while seeing the copious amounts of vitriol that he posted in that thread.)

The problem is you simply do not care to admit that it can be an honest mistake that is in part due to a fundamental flaw in the interface. You'd rather just call everyone some form of negative stereotype (all not Shadarle) and blame them for something that quite simply may not be their fault.

I won't even touch upon your convenience bias over this matter. It has not been changed, you may find things are not as you fear. Granted they may be worse but at this point tough. It is happening regardless.

I just wonder if someone ran out of beer and decided to fix this matter while waiting for more.

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Originally by: Shadarle

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What honest mistake can cause this again? I've not seen a single one listed or perhaps I missed it...

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Using the numpad, accidental strike of the enter key as you are going to insert a decimal. It is a reasonable error imho. Much akin to stapler boy's original position (though funnier indeed) and is the only reason I allow myself to consider this as not a bad thing.

For someone like you, the truth is that it is just one more click. Remember, your the guy who spends 10 minutes in eve for your billions. What's an extra click when it prevents (/neuters) accidents (claims)?

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Originally by: Shadarle

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You are enjoying casting this as me being some super human with amazing abilities looking down at those less skilled than I.

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Not really, I'm just mocking your tendency in this thread. Where you take anyone positive about this change and represent them as being for bubble wrapping the world for everyone else's protection. Stop dragging everyone who does not agree with you to some extremist version of a ludicrous world... perhaps I'll stop my friendly mocking.

Originally by: Shadarle

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Clearly because it is stupid to try to change them all, thus it is stupid to change only one of them imo. Mostly because by "fix" I mean satisfy people who are not careful when they play and annoying those who are. It's never good to punish people who play by the rules and do things right, it causes people to grow unhappy and feel that they are being punished for others mistakes.

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This is a misrepresentation.

You feel punished as things are being changed, not necessarily in your favor, but not specifically against you either. Not everyone is benefited by every change, cry us a river. Oh wait, you've asked everyone whose ever fallen victim to this to stop crying.

Should I say that instead?

Essentially, it is an easy fix for the majority. It is not punishment, just not popular with you and a few others. There's always someone who doesn't like change in their little eve world. Me, I'm pretty ambiguous about it. It is neither good nor bad to me, just is. And perhaps good for those who fairly fall victim to it. (Though I understand you see no fairness to anyone who happens to make any mistake.)

Like I said, it is.
Adapt or ... something.

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Originally by: Nicole Maher

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^ How is that any different?

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You exercised the option to turn off "aggression" warning pop up before your disastrous mistake.

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